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Dreaming are one of Germany’s oldest Doom Metal bands but are still seen as a obscure band outside of their own country. This needs to change as of right now because Dreaming have played some of the most classic Doom Metal tunes since forming way back in 1993. Formed by Thomas (drums), Thomas (bass, vocals) and Sandro (guitar, vocals) in Motor City Zschopau, Saxony. Their first concert was played in February 1994 with Mirror of Deception and Dawn of Winter and in summer 1994 they released a demo tape called “Smirten Prøben”. A bunch of major shows followed including one with Solitude Aeturnus, finally in 1999 the debut album was released on their own Slow Fox Music label. In 2003 they played at the Doom Shall Rise Festival in Crailsheim/Triensbach and in 2004 at the Autumn of Doom Festival at Die Eiche/Obereuerheim together with Reverend Bizarre, Officium Triste, Rise And Shine and others. The second album “II” was released on PsycheDoomelic Records in 2006 which proved to be one of the strongest Doom Metal releases ever. Since then, more big shows followed in 2007 and 2008 but things have gone quiet for Dreaming ever since. Luckily my comrade in all things Doom (Aleks) just caught up with the entire band for this interview.

-Salut gentlemen! What’s new in Dreaming life? I understand that playing slow music doesn’t necessary mean to be “slow” in ordinary life but you have only released two albums… to say the least of it… not to often.

S: Salut Aleks! Yeah, you’re right, unfortunately. But there are some reasons for that: On the one hand, Dreaming was in the first years since our foundation in 1993 only a side project to myself, ’cause my main band at that time were Subversion. This doesn’t mean Dreaming was not important to me but with Subversion we’re playing more shows and writing more material and so … Subversion split off in 2004 but the reason for that is also the problem for Dreaming on the other hand: I lived since 2000 in Leipzig, the others Thomas Becker and Thomas Schulz lived in Zschopau a town that is about two hours away if you it drive by car. That’s not too much but if you have a job and a family but it isn’t possible to get in the rehearsal room once a week and to play shows every weekend. So this is not the best situation for a band (and for fans too) but we’re trying get together as much as possible.

-Dreaming always was a trio, do You feel really comfort to remain in such membership? Though it’s simple question without any tricks because I see that three is enough (especially considering Dreaming LP “II”).

S: Yes, we do. The three piece formation was planned from the beginning, but I remember that we’ve had a session with a possible second guitar player once a time too but it didn’t works out. So we decided to play as a trio. Despite a separate vocalist, in my opinion the classically drums, bass and guitar lineup is always good enough for playing powerful, traditional doom-rock.

-I’m sure that it would be right to introduce each Dreaming member to our readers!

S: I’m 35 years old and playing guitar since 1992, when I started with my first band Subversion. Music was and is always the comfort in my life, the beauty that let me cry and laugh, understand and doubt, the one who set me free. Actually I’m working as a Librarian here in Leipzig, where I live with my Family.
TB: 42 years old mustache- fanatic, torturing drums for 20 years. First noises in a punk rock band, co-founder of the DREAMING trinity in 1993.
TS: I´m 40 years old now but not the oldest in the band, ha ha. I play the bass and sometimes i´m the singer, but only if Sandro isn’t willing to do the job. My first Band was/is Dreaming, it was the reason to play the bass. Besides I played in several bands, I did Noise Core and Rock´n´Roll.

-You’ve released last CD “II” four years ago, of course there were eight long years between “Tý Volœý” and “II” but what did Dreaming do during this period?

TB: Playing some shows, making new songs, recording the “Warstarter” for a never released St. Vitus tribute, …
TS: Writing songs, throwing it in the garbage can, writing new songs…we did nothing special I think.

-How do You think – what is a main component of Dreaming music? What does distinguish Dreaming from other bands?

S: I think the people should decide for themselves what does us distinguish from other bands. The main component in our music is maybe the fact that we make this music together since 1993 and that we try to put it out with a lot of fun by ourselves and with the same difference as the people do that played these style of music long before us – Cream, Black Sabbath, Zeppelin, Saint Vitus, Hendrix, … You know.
TB: Yeah, maybe our sometimes unusual interpretation of doom and the influences from lots of old bands beside the doom scene are typical for that sound.

-How did You come to record of “II”? When have You decided to go in studio and record it?

S: Before we decided to go in the studio there was a long period between 2003 and 2004 we didn’t do anything as band because I have written my master thesis for my final exam. In summer/autumn 2004 we was doing songs like “The orgies of sorrow”, “Birth means defeat” or “Creeping forward” first in the rehearsal room and in the beginning of 2005 we decided to go in the BlankMan-Studio in our Hometown Zschopau to record the stuff. It was the studio of Mike (singer of Subversion) and we had good and relaxt sessions with him on a couple of weekends.

-Dreaming has certainly got good lyrics so can we suppose what part of your songs is important for You too? Good vocal-lines need good lyrics…

S: That’s a problem of this kind of view: If I write lyrics I mostly go out from the point, that I haven’t written shitty words, but the beauty lies in the eye of the viewer, you know. So I don’t know what others think about my words (excluded Thomas and Thomas, because we often talk about those things). To me, our lyrics are very important because only the connection between music and words describes the whole feeling of a song.
TB: It’s not even the main part, but you should not have to be ashamed for your lyrics. Maybe someone understands our saxonian mumbling.

-Is it hard to compose such catchy melodies as You wrote for “II”?

S: Aleks, thank you, but I can’t answer this question objectively. In my opinion it isn’t hard. It is more a thing of the good and the right feeling at the right time and place. I often have some melodies and themes for songs in my mind but not all of these things will become a new Dreaming Song. But sometimes it happens and then we go …

-Which song is Your favorite one onto this album and why?

TB: Birth Means Defeat – I simply like it.
S: That’s my favorite song on the album, too and it is because of the lyrics. The night I’ve written those lines I really was depressed by the realization of the case the song deal with. The idea that everyone thinks he can go out of life through suicide if he wants, was turned around to me through the idea that the problem of everyone’s life is just the beginning, our birth. The case is: if you are alive you can decide if you wanna go or not, but about your birth you have no chance, you will be come alive and have to live that life. And that’s the real point of no return.
TS: Blurred Truth – for the same reason like Thomas.

-Which period of Dreaming’s existence was most successful for You?

S: I think there were a lot of good moments with Thomas and Thomas and with good friends and fans.
TB: We had lots of ups and downs, some good shows and lazy times too. The first years were very powerful with lots of club gigs, the increasing publicity with “II” and shows like DSR V were also very exciting. And of course we will have great times with the new album…

-Don’t You think that Dreaming could be more popular if You spend a little bit more time promoting the band through Internet, through gigs? Are You satisfied with current band’s state?

TS: More popular in the Doom scene of course but it is very comfortable to be a hidden secret. You need a lot more time if you are popular, you have to write a lot more letters or e-mails, you have to say a lot more “No” to gig offers. We don´t have so much time cause of jobs and families.

-What did happened with Subversion? And well what does Weeds in the Head of Thomas Schulz do?

S: Subversion split off in 2004, because I had a lot to do with my studies at that time and I could not spend enough time and power to handle two bands with a real perspective for both. It was a hard step for me to quite my musical relation with Mike, Micha and Oli, because we have played together since 1992 and especially in the 90’s we did a lot of shows, had done some demos, a single and two records … Actually the three others played together once again, named as Warped Cross. It sounds really cool and more fucked up-noisy than the Subversion thing. You should listen to them via
TS: Weed In The Head is dead since 2004 cause one of our guitar players has had a job at Spain, and the next year too. It was a good chance to stop the band, personal I wasn’t satisfied with the band name, not satisfied with the most newer songs, the discipline at rehearsals bores me… We started new under the name Petrified. For more information’s you can check

-What kinds of associations bring up following doom sub-genres in You?
-doom metal (traditional doom);

TS: This is Doom, nothing else, all the other genres are Doom Metal related.
S: Black Sabbath, Saint Vitus, Candlemass.


TS: Can be called Slow Death Metal too, there are some good bands like Officium Triste or old Cianide and, like in every genre here are a lot of not so good bands. But if you like it…
S: Autopsy!


TS: My first association is Electric Wizard, their old records are monuments. Good music for using herbs, like the name says.
S: Sleep.

-funeral doom;

TS: Not my cup of tea, but it seems it´s popular these days, think in the early days it was the same like Doom Death or Gothic.
S: ?


TS: Grief, Versus The Stillborn-Minded are good examples, popular too, a lot of bands around the globe. I like some, like the mentioned, but I´m not really interested in most of these bands cause there are too many.
S: EyeHateGod.


TS: Experimental music, has nothing to do with Doom Metal, more with soundscapes and sounds.
S: I agree, bands like SunnO))) has nothing really to do with doom or doom metal.

-Which unspecified manifestations of doom music would You like to mention? If there’re some exist… Is the “doom” term important for You at all?

TS: Taka Tuka Doom, haha. It´s war promoting Ultra Doom with pacifistic lyrics. Very dangerous…and about flowers. Is the “Doom” term important, hmm, we play Doom Metal, but the term isn’t really important, maybe people which don´t know about Doom Metal would say Heavy Metal, Hard Rock or Rock Music.

-What do You like in doom-metal?

TS: I love the brotherhood between the bands and the people which are listen to it, it´s really familiar. I love the relaxed atmosphere at concerts and festivals. Doom Metal is the smallest genre in Heavy Metal but most of the people are honest, the bands are playing this style cause they like it and not for commercial reasons ( which would be stupid, cause Doom Metal doesn’t sell).

-PsycheDOOMelic Records were ones who published Your CD in 2006. So what do You think about doom’s “psychedelic” or drug’s influences?

TB: Well, herbal teas are always good for you, especially thyme in case of cough.
S: We’ve all said about Dreamings drug influences on our first demo-tape “Smirten pr?ben”. Listen to “The Candlesmoker”!
TS: Drugs are forbidden in Germany so we know nothing about. Except candles, which are legal. And about psychedelic influences you should ask Márk from PsycheDOOMelic Records, he created the term.

-What do you think about latest doom tendencies and trends? Is it interesting for you to watch the doom-scene changes from inside?

TS: Trends are coming and going, it´s a general “problem” in the music scene, at the moment it seems Drone, Funeral and Sludge are trendy. The tendencies are going to more extreme stuff, it´s like it was with Heavy Metal, first Heavy Metal, then Speed/ Thrash Metal, then Black/ Death Metal and later this Electro Noise Stuff. In my eyes this development is a two sided sword, at the one side the audience for Doom Metal is wider than ever, on the other side most of the “newbies” know nothing about the basics, about where Doom Metal come from. They think My Dying Bride or Ahab are typical Doom bands.

-What is a best example for you of the doom-metal scene?

S: I guess, I don’t understand your question in the right way … the best example? As Thomas said, trends are coming and going and so, the doom metal scene is changing occasionally and an example for the whole scene I cannot see seriously.

-What are You Dreaming about?

TS: Dreaming about Death, Doom and Destruction. No, not serious. I don´t know, maybe you have the answer.
TB: Sometimes I’m dreaming of having no more mustache … I’m afraid!
S: Sometimes I’m dreaming about … so many things I can’t tell you!

-This is the last question for now so let me thank You for this interview and Your patience! I’m glad that we used a chance to do this interview. Do You have something to add?

TB: Aleks, thank you very much for interest and support!
S: Thank you. We have written some new stuff and try to record it in autumn of these year. Look out!
TS: Give Doom a chance.

Interview By Aleks Evdokimov


Posted April 29, 2010 by doommantia in Dreaming

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